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>You'd better know what you're talking about, before reacting. This is way beyond what you understand of ethnical integration in europe. Your anadotical experience somewhere in the past does not tell me anything.
My experiences are not anecdotal. I've seen the problems and I have family in Germany to this very day. They talk about the Turks like Americans would talk about rapists. They are not accepted into German society, the Germans would love to get rid of them. Their unemployment rates lead to higher crime statistics and more trouble for the Germans. Unemployment rates among the Turks and Turkish youth approach 50%. When a subjugated, fringe population has no hope, they will rebel and that is a boiling pot waiting to happen.
I like how you couch the same feelings in your statement: " though they are generally not seen as an ethnical group integrating very well into dutch society,". Seems to me that the Dutch have the same feelings as the Germans.
Among a few:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/11/13/MNG1AFNKRG1.DTLhttp://www.springerlink.com/content/0842318k42m7234v/And how do you justify the Turkish riots in France? The condemnation of the Turks in the European countries is going to become a huge problem. It is already approaching that in Germany and France.
