>>Sorry, I didn't know that this thread is about cars.
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>>I did wonder why you responded to a thread about obeying traffic signals by attempting to connect it to an offensive Nazi death-camp slogan.
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>Your wonderment is totally understandable.
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>>Do you think that National Socialist German Worker government did not exist?
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>>Do you think the US government is the Socialist German Worker Party?
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>So this thread was about US-made cars only?
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>>So groceries appear in stores because government mandated it?
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>>I think you've misunderstood again. Groceries appear in stores because everybody from farm to store believes they can drive safely on the roads, provide credit, enforce payment and make a buck. Why do they believe that? Because the majority of society accepts and generally adheres to a system of laws guaranteed by government. When the majority of citizens don't agree, revolution or military despotism generally results.
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>Huh. Do you imply that majority can get their voice heard only through revolutions/coups? What kind of 'safety society' you were talking about?
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>>I'd recommend that you examine the history of your adopted country for examples of absolute "freedom" leading to banditry and lawlessness. When that happened, 100% of towns sought, welcomed and applauded enforcement of law. QED.
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>I suspect that any time you hear the word 'freedom', it immediately evokes to you images of crazy-eyed people shooting their neighbours. I would recommend that you examine the history of your world. You may find some different examples of the freedom.
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Lately, the term 'freedom' seems to have been hijacked by special interest groups to denote exactly what you wrote. However, I don't think that is the case (in general) here on the UT (although I've seen it used that way in isolated cases in previous messages in the chatter section) and definitely not for John (sorry if I misspoke John). It's my understanding that he spends quite a bit of time here in the U.S.