As an independent, I don't care how much someone rips into the Rs - often I'll agree.

Me too. I was not a big W fan and had plenty to criticize about him. However, I must say that my sympathies lie with the Freedom Caucus.

But that doesn't change the fact that this administration actively engaged in 2 monumental lies near an election. One was the "if you like your plan/doctor, you can keep it", and then lie regarding the attack of a poorly-secured US embassy (that took four American lives) on the anniversary of the greatest attack on U.S. soil - initiated by an affiliate of the original attackers.

These are facts. Ones which opponents of the R party are simply unwilling to acknowledge. It's all about intellectual honesty.

You'll get no argument from me about this. I am sure that you will get plenty of arguments and excuses from Bill and Victor ;)