>>>when I think of Marcia - she was tough as nails. I can be tough when I need to be, but she was really tough.
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>She was good at what she did. Sometimes that comes with tricky personality.
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>I can think of one person here who had particular reason to feel that toughness keenly - you will know who I mean - so hopefully that chapter now can close.
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>As noted, I intend to focus on the positives, including some very helpful work in her books and extremely strong responses to questions. Many here would have benefited from these contributions.
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>The other one who is very much alive but springs to mind, is Lisa Slater-Nicholls. Both strong women who shone bright in the FP era. And then there's Tamar and plenty of others who still carry the flag. Misogynous tech geeks take note: there were no glass ceilings in the Fox world!

One of the downsides of this sort of communication is not knowing how the person who you are talking to "is".

I remember laying into Mike Beane a bit about issues and regretted it when I heard the news about him.