> > >Sorry to bug again with the DE, and my cheeks redden while I write this, > >but I have never used relations, except in ad hoc manipulation of data, > >and I am programmming in FP since 1991. When I need something like a > >relation I SQL or scan. Yes! you can call me a Dino or a Chm.., but I > >kind of hate views, queries and othe DE's. > > the DataEnvironment object (DE) and the other object it can contain > (cursor object etc. - not to be mistaken with SQL cursors) are objects > VFP has for data manipulation (open/close tables set relation/buffering etc.) > If I follow you, you put your form in Classes (VCX), no? So you instantiate the DE _in_ the load method of your form class, And the DE is a sub-object of the form class. Or is there some magic here that I am missing? TIA Marc