>( should be mentioned here for lurkers: Turkey is not only one of the most fascinating places in the world but no people will every make Americans feel more safe, welcome and comfortable than the Turks. This is a proud, Western oriented society which is the model for a democracy with Islamic roots and a huge success-story in the advancement of women's rights and entrepenurism. Terrific place for a vacation and a very nice climate to do business )
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So much things in common (reminds raki,meze and a whole night for talking:) snipping parts.
Thank you for adding this note.

>Oh - before I forget - I wanted to ask you and Metin :
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>There is an expression is Turkish I always loved which meant
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>"I am a gentleman and you are a gentleman - so who will milk the goats ?"
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>Sen aga ben de agasi kim koyun something or other.
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>Do you know it?

Yes but don't know how to translate better. In Turkish:

Sen aga ben aga
Koyunlari kim saga.

Would this version do better?

You're a boss, I'm a boss
Who will milk the goats

PS: Markus owns a ranch and in need of cowboys?:)
Cetin